What (Nighttime) Dreams Are Made Of

Since we are now in December, I feel I need to connect today’s post to the feeling that I have received an early Christmas gift. Two amazing women, Dr. Vicki Atkinson and Wynne Leon, recently reached out to me again to join them on their podcast Sharing The Heart of the Matter, and what a lively conversation we had. Actually, it was lively, informative and a little revealing with glimpses into my sub-conscious.

They learned of my interest in this topic after I had posted my own amateur interpretation regarding a dream Vicki wrote about. Here is that post:

https://victoriaponders.com/2024/09/24/late-and-lost/

I have always been a dream detective; trying to decode the symbols and the people in my dreams and what it means. Dream interpretation is fascinating because what we see and feel in a dream is almost always connected to a real-life situation or concern. There are no accidents. How your brain converts your emotions into symbols and people and places to help you process your real world is, to me, the 8th Greatest Wonder of the World.

I wanted to expand what I knew on the topic before the podcast and purchased β€œWhy We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams” by Matthew Walker, Ph.D. It provided in-depth details on sleep and sleep experiments and dreams. It delves into REM sleep, where dreams and creativity comes alive through our memory trees and memory mixology.

I will add just a moment of history here. Well before Sigmund Freud believed dreams were unconscious wishes which had not yet been fulfilled, the Egyptians’ believed dreams were sent down from the gods. The Greeks believed gods visited them through their dreams to impart divine information. It was Aristotle who was the first to believe that dreams have their origins in recent waking events.

My point is that dreams have been a part of the human experience since the day (or night) they first slept here on earth. Adam and Eve probably dreamed about each other!

I also reference how I try to return to my dreams and lucid dreaming. And there’s a great story involving Keith Richards from the Rolling Stones I pull right from the book.

Why is this a Christmas gift per se? For me, podcasting is an opportunity to return to something I loved 40-something years ago: college radio. I also took part in CRIS Radio (Chicagoland Radio Information Service) when I first moved to Chicago. The volunteer staff read newspapers, magazines and books live on a certain bandwidth for the visually impaired. To return to these fulfilling moments really almost feels like a bucket list thing to do.

So, my deepest thanks to Vicki and Wynne. The podcast is below. Please check out their websites and books below.

https://victoriaponders.com/

https://wynneleon.com/

AND subscribe to theirYouTube channel to see a video clip of each story: @SharingtheHeartoftheMatter. I did! They cover a wide variety of interesting topics.

Audio Only available here:

Vicki holds a doctorate degree in adult education, is a licensed professional counselor, author, blogger and is a consultant in her own business, Atkinson Group Solutions. 

Wynne has created a wonderful life which has included climbing mountains around the world, running her own business and discovering the joy of meditation. She is her own woman who chose to have children at age 46 and 50 and holds a degree in electrical engineering.  She also writes technical computer manuals, articles about meditation and parenting.

Dream Photo by Ron Lach on Pexels.com

29 responses to “What (Nighttime) Dreams Are Made Of”

  1. Melanie…I love this. Every bit. Your thoughts about dreams provided us with an inspired podcast. And this post? About the “big thinkers” and cultural aspects re: dream interpretation? Reminders that our dream states have been…will always be…ripe for cultivating insight.
    Our latest podcast with you was so much fun — and I love that you see it as a return to your college radio roots! I see that! You’re a natural.
    Thank you for the shoutouts and love. All of that right back to you, my friend. Til next time! xoxoxo! πŸ₯°

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    1. Aww, thanks, Vicki. I’m so glad that you loved “every bit.” That means a lot. Dreams are universal and make for some phenomenal conversation and research to find the answers. I can see why Dr. Walker pursued a Ph.D in it, haha. It was a blast to be with you both again and I so appreciate the chance. ❀️πŸ₯°

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      1. All the love right back to you! I think we could keep talking about dreams…so potent! So much to “mine”. Sending big hugs! πŸ₯°πŸ₯°πŸ₯°

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      2. Yes! I know you like to give your guests “the floor”, but I would love to hear even a little about your knowledge on dream interpretation based on your studies and profession. There is absolutely more to cover! xx β€οΈπŸ€—

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      3. You are so sweet. Sounds like a great topic for another podcast with you! Sure — I’d love to do that! xoxoxoxo! πŸ₯°

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      4. And as I thought about it, you certainly don’t need me if you go in that direction. I’ll still be all ears, though. :) Inquiring minds want to know…eveything!

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      5. Don’t be silly! You’re the inspiration behind the awesome chat we’ve had. Big hugs! πŸ₯°

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      6. You know the old adage about assuming….lol. 😜

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  2. Love this podcast with you, Melanie! It was a gift for us! You are brilliant — and so fun to talk to. Thank you so much for sharing this podcast and this generous post!

    And I didn’t know about your college radio days. Now it makes sense why you are such a natural!

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    1. Hi Wynne! You are very sweet, but the brilliant part (and don’t try and argue) is the other way around with you two. :) You are really thinkers. But I love that because I am always ready to take it in and learn something. But at any rate, thank you, thank you. ❀️

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      1. The three of us are a good combo!! :) <3 <3 <3

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      2. See, Melanie? Wynne agrees! xoxoxoxo! πŸ₯°

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      3. I surrender!!! ❀️ ❀️

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  4. It seems as though energy from the podcast is reverberating here in comments, a good thing. :-D

    I’ll go with Aristotle who believes that dreams have their origins in recent waking events. My husband’s dreams are in technicolor, while mine seem pale in comparison–sometimes being chased or falling, topics that Jung has explored in depth.

    This is a wonderful post, Melanie, but I want to listen to the podcast before I say more. Cheers!

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    1. I love how you can sense the energy “reverberating” in the comments, Marian. It’s true! My dreams may be closer to Cliff’s. There is a lot of detail, and yes, I have fallen too; what a sensation! We didn’t discuss Jung, but what a great idea if we do a second one. I know that it is a happily busy time of year, so I understand if you can’t commit, but there are some very interesting thoughts on dreams and creativity. Thanks so much, Marian! πŸ˜€

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  5. I just now finished listening to your podcast with Vicki and Wynne–wow!

    As I expected, this 3-way chat was both entertaining and informative. I was especially intrigued with Melanie’s dream about her secret service involvement with a president, including a poisonous balloon.

    And, I believe it’s true that in the REM dream state, our mind removes all the guardrails of reality and logic. I wish I could remember more on waking.

    Thanks for all of this. You three were stimulating companions as I had a bite to eat. :-D

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    1. Oh my goodness, Marian. I am super grateful that you listened right after your previous comment! Thank you for that. I thought you might be interested in the guardrails portion and how our brains remove them to create creative ideas. It’s amazing to me. I got a little crazy in there with my strange Secret Service and balloon dream. Are we still friends, lol? I am also grateful for your awesome sense of humor. ❀️ I love that you enjoyed our back and forth. Vicki and Wynne rock. :)

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    I enjoyed your podcast about dreams very much, Melanie. Dreams are such a fascinating subject. The subconscious is one of the greatest mysteries of humans. Who knows why we suddenly dream about something that’s been stored away in our brain from 50 years ago that we haven’t thought of in decades?

    I haven’t had any recently, but I used to have a reocurring flying dream where I could control my body in flight. I was usually outside somewhere but not always. It felt a little bit like being on a roller coaster, but I was steering my body and could slow down, speed up, and bank into turns. I was in effect, driving my body through the air feet first like a luge driver. It was a feeling that gave me a rush of adrenaline. I don’t recall if I was pursuing anything or being chased by someone.

    For some reason, I seldom recall my dreams now. Occasionally, I’ll still have a school dream. Without fail, they involve some type of chaotic situation that brings a lot of anxiety. Sometimes I realize I’m dreaming and wake myself up to get out of the predicament.

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    1. The brain and sub-conscious ARE a mystery and utterly fascinating. I’m glad you added the part about pulling something out from 50 years ago, that wasn’t discussed. And I can’t believe you referenced flying, Pete! I wanted to and I didin’t get to it. I also dreamed about flying when I was a teen and into my 20’s and 30’s. I don’t fly anymore. I love how you describe the movement of flying. That’s incredible. I remember “taking off” and I would get up on my toes and push forward and up a few times before I lifted off. The feeling in the air, using my arms was akin to swimming. And I may be wrong, but you saying that you wake yourself up to get out of something sounds like lucid dreaming. You are controlling the direction of the dream. Thanks so much for sharing all of this – it’s all very cool! 😎

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    2. I dreamed about flying also but not recently, Pete! I still have school dreams, though. I dreamed about the first day of school, my students ran down the street. I went after them and grabbed a couple of them, dragging them with me to look for the others. It didn’t matter how well I prepared before the first day of school, there was still some anxiety about something unexpected happening.

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        It is kind of funny why our school dreams usually involve some crisis. I have pleasant dreams sometimes, but why do they never involve school? 🀣

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      2. I like your summation that the craziness in the dream was really about being anxious over “something unexpected happening.” That’s super interesting, Miriam, and sounds exactly right. 😊

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  7. I had all kinds of dreams when I was younger. I dreamed about flying, the same as Pete described it. I ran but couldn’t pick up my feet. When I got older, I often dreamed about places around my childhood. My first lover showed up in my dream many times. He left without saying why. I just wanted to ask him why, even after he passed away. Somehow I can trace the pieces in my dream.

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  8. Dreams are so fascinating to me. I’m excited to watch your podcast episode, Vicki and Wynne are both fantastic hosts.

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    1. They truly are! There is some very interesting info in it (if dreams interest you. 😊) Thanks, Pooja!

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      1. You’re very welcome! ☺️

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